Great idea for WE 1911 owners

[Cheezin 24/7]

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=52805.0
Now no more complaints of gas guzzling

[scasey]

My mags are having the same issue that guys did. If I understand this correctly I am to Loctight the seal?

[Fightin_Like_Charlie.]

one of these days if anyone here is up at acqb and knows excatly what he did cuz i'm just a bit hazy on it this and do not want to go tearing apart my mags. i'd appreciate if you could show me hands on. or atleast a picture with on here with arrow i guess? lol.

[xps5000]

Somebody want to copypasta those shenanigans for those of us who are banned from ASR?

[itsahak]

Ha, I've tried to get banned from there. Raptop wouldn't let it happen

Here it is

so, i have two mags for my WE 1911 tactical. one that came with it, and another for the 1911 government model that i ordered off of www.depot53.com. now, i had accidentally messed up the seal in the valve on top of the government mag so it would leak when i put gas in it. i found once it was filled up that if i pressed on the sides of the rubber piece, the sound of leaking would diminish. so i figured i would take it off and seal it in there with loctite. now, i have no freakin idea why that worked, but it did. it now doesn't leak anymore, but if someone wants to enlighten me as to why, be my guest...
but on to the main topic:

so, this particular mag had had the rubber piece glued in, therefore raising the rubber piece by just a tad. i noticed this when i was shooting it tonight. the mag that had come with the gun (and had no work on it) seemingly did not release enough gas. or possibly did not have a very good seal with the gun. when i shot it, the slide did not seem to blow back as hard as when i used the mag i had worked on. it was then that i realized (duh) that one mag had glue in it, causing the rubber piece to seal very tightly with the blowback mechanism. it made every single shot blowback very hard, and gas efficiency was great! the other mag, not so much. as soon as i realized this, i promptly took apart the other mag and glued the rubber piece in. we'll see how well it worked in about an hour (or a half).

hope this helps guys!

EDIT: after checking up on the second mag, the one that i just worked on, get this: i can get over 50 shots off on one mag fill, after it was just filled! (using propane)

[xps5000]

Thanks Hak. I would definitely appreciate someone talking me through this or writing a more in depth guide if they end up doing it to their mags.

[DukeNukem]

I just performed this "fix". From what I can tell, It doesn't seem to raise the seal any higher, unless locktite expands when it dries. What it does is it seals the seal to the magazine so no gas can escape around the base of the seal and out the side.

Here's how I did it, please correct me if I did it improperly.

1. Disassemble magazine lip by removing pegs
2. Dry off any silicone residue from seal
3. Carefully apply Loctite to the base of the seal (the bottom part that makes contact with the magazine just above the valve.
4. Carefully slip the seal back on to the magazine.
5. Replace magazine follower (usually comes out when you remove lip)
6. Place lip back on and try not to move the seal around too much
7. Hammer pegs back into place.
9. Wait 1 hr ( I wait a little more just to be sure)

I tested my gun but I was nearly empty on gas and didn't have any bbs. The action felt very solid until I ran out of gas. I will try again with a fresh can and bbs. This is how I did it. If anyone did it differently, please enlighten us :)

[DukeNukem]

*UPDATE*
BTW: I must mention that I did NOT use Locktite. I used a similar brand called Prime Lok 245 Blue. This is the mid grade. There is also a Prime Lok Red that has a tighter grip. It probably will hold longer than blue but try at your own risk ;)

I came home today with a new can of gas and a bag of bbs. I took apart a 1911 mag I worked on and to my disappointment, the seal came off rather easily though not as easily as it did before the locktite application. So I tried it out just to be sure and well, I must say it works! It works very well indeed.

Test results on a single stack WE 1911 Tactical
Functionality improvements: Crisp clean blowback and hard kick
Gas improvements: Tested with 6 magazines, Minimum 32 rounds, Maximum 60+ rounds (I lost count):eek: :eek: :eek: . Big improvement from barely 15 rounds

Though I am worried this substance may corrode my seals. :confused:

[xps5000]

Nice! Great to hear that I can still get a kickass looking pistol without having to worry so much about gas usage.

[DukeNukem]

since the single stack 1911 is capable of over 60 rounds. I estimate the Hi-Capa is capable of 120 rounds. Imagine how much you will save on Green Gas. Or even propane!

Another thing that may work if not prove more effective, would be Elmer's glue. It should be stickier than Prime Loc Blue and it solidifies, so it may push the seal up to the chamber, plus it may hold a little longer and it should not corrode the seal.

[Hudson-Stryker]

I'm wondering if this would help drive my We(eee!) 5.1 dragon.

The basic concept is to push the seal up tighter, easy to do. i'm thinking maybe cutting a rubber spacer/shim out of some rubber seal sheet i have in my hobby kit and checking if that helps. it's pretty tacky stuff, and it expands nicely when smooshed, should make a good seal.

I have two identical mags which behave more or less exactly the same, i'll give it a shot and post some results after i finish my hard case for the mini dvr.

[Hudson-Stryker]

I'm trying a couple methods for this idea on the 5.1 dragon. one is two silicon shims. (top and bottom), and the other will be to cut a mold with casting wax (its a pretty simple shape, i'll just do it by hand) and try making a whole new rubber thats got a little more reach.

gonna take a while, this silicon stuff takes forever to fully cure so i can take it out of the molds, and the rubber isn't any better.

[Hudson-Stryker]

Holy cripes.

Uh, yeah, it works on the WE dragon as well. I got tired of waiting for the silicone shim i made to cure, so i quickly just cut one out of some thin black rubber seal, gassed 'er up and compared it against a 'normal' mag with a fresh fill.

Lets put it this way: 'BANG!' vs 'phoot!'

Posting my work on it over here (http://www.acmeairsoft.com/showthread.php?p=58821).

[DukeNukem]

Yeah, this method is very effective, even without raised seals I get a solid "Blat!" instead of a "pop" plus fuel efficiency is the big plus. If you can post your new FPS, that would be great. :)