multi-directional grenade

[afroman794]

read about people trying to make these and got to thinking and i drew up some rough pictures and got one that will deffinately work but i dont know how to make a gas chamber or mod an existing one to my model.

if anyone happens to know a lot about them we should sit and talk sometime because i think this could really work

[matshark]

hey bro...feel free to let us know your ideas... we've got a bunch of people throwing this idea around and im sure that between the bunch of us we can come up with something cheap, functional and safe...

[itsahak]

Most definitly scan and post em!

[afroman794]

dont have a scanner or digital camera but ill c if i cud do it at the school library

[jawinn]

I'm working on my own design right now for the omni-directional grenade (otherwise known as the Airsoft Holy Grail). I would post the details and/or plans here but I really want to build a functional prototype first.

I will offer this I strongly believe that any winning design will not use gas.

[afroman794]

what type of propellant or means of locomotion will get the bbs off the ground and into the lucky reciepient?

i really want to at least see one made and any ideas are a major plus

[Jaberwaki]

A few of us have also been looking to draft up something of this sort for a while now.
I have a few designs I think would work but it would require an actual company to make as production would not be cheap...

[damiensabin]

Here is a rough idea that I had recently for an onmi directional grenade type weapon. It would resemble one of the german stick type grenades from WWII once assembled. If anyone wants to try it out feel free. I may go home and tinker with it this weekend. Please don't laugh as I haven't worked out all the logistics of it yet, as I said it just came to me while I was sitting here at work.

Supplies:

1 piece of PVC pipe slightly longer than a CO2 cartridge
1 cap for the end of the PVC pipe
1 PVC pipe coupler or clamp
1 CO2 cartridge
2 small balloons

1 pin-type valve (This is the part I need to play with. This piece should be similar those found in CO2 pistols where when you turn the pin it punctures the cartridge.)

Assembly:

1) Glue the valve piece into the end of the PVC pipe.

2) Fill 1 balloon about a 1/4 of the way with 12 gram pellets.

3) Insert the second balloon inside the first so that just the end is still outside.

4) Stretch the ends of the 2 balloons over the end of the PVC pipe containing the valve.

5) Insert a CO2 cartridge into the pipe but don't push it hard enough to puncture it.

6) Put the cap on the end enough to hold the CO2 cartridge inside.

When you are ready to discharge the "grenade" simply push the cap on all the way puncturing the CO2 cartridge. This should fill the inner balloon causing it to expand taking the outer balloon with it. As long as the balloons are small enough they should burst releasing pellets everywhere.

Like I said this has not yet been tested. The problems I see with it would be that the balloons could fail to pop or just the inner one could pop before the outer one then the pellets could just fall in a pile. One solution to this could be to use a smaller balloon for the outside than the inside. The other problem might be finding sufficiently small balloons. I'm not sure how large a single CO2 cartridge would fill a balloon.

If anyone tries this out please let me know how it works. As I said I may test this out this comming weekend if I can squeeze it in.

I know it would look a bit "ghetto" but if it works the look can be refined later. Please let me know what you think good, bad, or indifferent.

Damiensabin

"Plans are great, it's the enemy that is the problem!"

[jawinn]

I think this idea has merit in principal but I bet you are going to have a real problem controlling the release of CO2 from the cartage. There is a lot of force in those things and you should be really careful when you're working with them.

[damiensabin]

Yeah I tought of that. Like I said it's going to need a bit more brainstorming to make it functional but I think the idea is there. Might need something a bit more low power than a CO2 cartridge but I'm not sure what that would be.

Also after thinking about it I'll bet that with a small enough valve opening to give you the right flow from the cartridge you might get the cartridge shooting out of the back end of the pipe. In that case you would want a threaded end with screw on cap to puncture the cartridge and keep it in place during discharge.

Hmm....definantly worth tinkering with. Also I have some ideas for a claymore but those are also in the conception stage.

[mr7q]

Out of sheer curiosity, has anybody asked Steve if these types of grenades (right now, just the Escort ones) are considered blind firing? I mean, gameplay wise, there's very little different between a grenade, and sticking a K around a corner and hosing.

I'm all for a grenade that works, but after seeing Alacris get hit in the head by somebody deploying one of those Escort grenades blindly, the idea of people chucking them about ACQB doesn't strike me as all that good of an idea.

[afroman794]

he says the 203 hand held ones are blind fireing if it stuck around the corner with out looking the ones that have a plunger and are realistic are allowed to be rolled around corners blindly even though its a good idea to be sure ur target is there before u throw it

[Jaberwaki]

yup... not blind fire since the effect would be like rolling a frag into a room, you would not poke your head in to watch it go off... lol

[IWearADesertJacket]

I was thinking about the 203 rules, maybe you would have to look in the room while throwing it.

[afroman794]

yup... not blind fire since the effect would be like rolling a frag into a room, you would not poke your head in to watch it go off... lol

he told me the hand held ones are because you could hit someone in the throat at two inches and really hurt them

but any grenade you would roll or throw is not blind fire due to the fact that if you stuck ur head in the room you just rolled a frag into you have to be a special kind of stupid


just what i was told

[Stealth1]

You all can make a virtual model using google sketchup which is a free prog from google. It looks a lot better than a hand drawing usually. Just a suggestion